their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. Like for example, if you get quality, economic, and offensive finished, that's +15% discipline. Those penalties are insignificant compared to being able to remove them quickly. Edit: and why is my force limit only 73k when theirs is 175k :(. However, always have an army ready in case you need it for war. Siege down the fort in Malaga before swarming over the Spanish mainland. This is especially true if the PLC and Russia blobs as they end up all hating each other. Aside from this generic advice, be sure to check whether you can accidentally vassalize your allies. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. Meanwhile, declare war on the Mamluks to take Palestine, Transjordan, and start expanding into Arabia. Try to disconnect their capital from asia. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. If you don't have all the DLCs, make sure to at least get the Cradle of Civilization DLC. Fortunately, the Tunisians cant be everywhere at once. A few suggestions on improving existing mechanics: Yeah shipping troops around is not the most fun thing to do for me either. When you fight with the Mamluks, make sure to expand into Saudi Arabia, towards Medina and Yemen. I'd suggest playing more aggressive in your conquests, or try to botch them early on because that always works best. Avoid the war goal on purpose, occupy Constantinople + Turkish provinces only. Eventually, they won't be able to sustain these wars as efficiently from the constant lack of manpower and they'll be taking loans for merc armies. disaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Dont give them land though, thatd be a waste of your precious war score. Definitely the Sultan of Rumneeds you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. I might be able to get France on my side too. All of this conquest you can do diplomatically, but dont be afraid to declare war if you want things to be a little quicker. I just don't find it fun to always split my armies, siege a lot of provinces and then consolidate my forces. After Military Tech 16 (I believe?) Its useful for you to grab important Caucasus provinces early. If their manpower gets low and/or they're in multiple wars, the time might be right to pile on. Press J to jump to the feed. If Medina still exists, you can likely vassalize them to speed up your conquest. to give yourself an edge. Tbh, quality troops will usually win wars against the Ottomans. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. Later on, the Ottomans don't have janissaries and your units should be just as good as theirs. Always check whether someone is willingly letting itself be annexed by you. Decent generals, high morale and good army tradition can be of great help. Keep that Navy under constant pressure. However, history wont stop us! I've hit them several times as the PLC in my most recent games after the 1600s, they're not invincible no matter how many troops they have. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If you do that, the AI will continue building troops and go further into debt than today's Greece. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. You wont gain cores on them, but. Screenshots would be helpful, or at the bare minimum a list of your and the Ottomans' alliances, with some rough idea of their strength and position. AE won't matter (No one will really care if you gut the ottos except maybe hejaz?). Not to mention their ability to tech like hell. Only having 49k is little. If Ajam gets too big or runs out of cores, integrate them and expand with new vassals, like Fars, Khorasan, Afghanistan, and Transoxiana. Works better if you have a fleet to block the straight, e.g. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. They hit a mid game power peak typically that's hard to beat, this is not the best time to try fighting them. Or, just annex Russia and use their force limit. Ottomans also tend not to upgrade forts so it's relatively quick sieging. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. Just like in actual history, France and the Ottomans make quite natural allies. They have really high income so privateering in their nodes wouldn't do much. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. The best way to beat any AI is to let them bleed all their manpower in small stacks, so try to and block the Bosporus if you have naval advantage and let small stacks through (small here being less than 20k or so), then wipe them with a numerical advantage. Even with my main allies France and Venice (60kish each) we're still not as powerful as them combined. Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. Make the war goal something I can take and defend easily; the goal is not to defeat them utterly as they have ridiculous numbers to be able to siege them out completely at first. For the nations you choose to play and the courses you chart for those nations. This selection contains highly anticipated releases, sequels, ports and some f We're in the home stretch! I'd probably invade Ottomans when they're busy fighting multiple wars and you might even be lucky enough for separatists to break off small chunks of their empire. I've already taken aristocratic, espionage, humanist, quality, and expansion ideas. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Simply take some Spanish lands and repeat after the truce timer runs out. I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. 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Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. The Ottomans are very susceptible to blockades because they have such a big coastline. Best advice for beating ottomans is simply stop being intimidated by their numbers and fight them. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If you are humanist support rebels in suppressive countries, if you are an absolute monarchy destroy the revolution. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. After you dealt with Genoa, you can complete the mission Conquer Caffa for a temporary trade power boost in the Black Sea. In my game, I had a problem. High debt and high war exhaustion means rebels which means even more trouble for them. Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. . Ottomans declared war on me, me and austria had 32k troops in a mountain province, Ottomans attacked with 17k, absolutely destroyed us with their garbage general while we both had 3 star generals. all are full except expansion. You can do so by going to the diplomatic interaction screen, selecting diplomatic feedback and toggling join offensive wars off. With both of them weakening, I swooped in and strengthened my position in the Balkan. to grant you a bunch more permanent claims all around. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Hungary, Austria, Poland) for free. Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. That's why my new. Look around Ottoman. It's the transport ships that give me headache. I declared war on Morocco, which they had guaranteed. As many as you can. I never take military idea groups, and I've still managed to take all of their provinces in campaign after campaign. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. I think at one point I just did nothing but go to war with them for 50 years as Germany. Destroy navy and beat up whatever army they dredge up. Were in another race for influence this time in North Africa, against a much more formidable foe! Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission to. The Ottomans have a unique tech group, Anatolian, which starts out with some of the best units in the game, but they tend to fizzle out the later and later you go. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. Then you declare war on Byzantium a few years after 1444 and pray the Ottomans do so too after you. All of this conquest you can do diplomatically, but dont be afraid to declare war if you want things to be a little quicker. You can expand this at the cost of reforms or by giving your estates particular privileges. Look around Ottoman. Punch Syria out of them if you can. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. They're frankly not nearly as difficult to beat as commentary on this sub would have you believe. With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when theReligious League Warfires. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, take. Focus on taking away their economic base. Make sure to take the cities ofAdenandMasqatas soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. Everybody will then gang up on them afterwards, leading to a downward spiral. Its useful for you to grab important Caucasus provinces early. In my case, Hungary got into a war with Austria, which saw both their units occupied. A no CB to vassalize Byzantium, followed by a straightforward war with ottomans to reclaim Byzantium cores is a popular move. They just can't grow to the same extent if they don't have Constantinople. They are superior early on. Keep some stacks in Europe and the Middle-East, to combat any Spanish troops should they decide to do a naval invasion. Privacy Policy. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. its either that or biga), sinope, amasya. After that you can trucebreak and catch their troops between you and and the rebels. Make sure to at least take Pest for the. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. Quite manageable. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. The Ottomans are in a precarious position because they need to essentially control two land masses that are not easily accessible. Fortunately, this is a coastal province, so you wont have to expand deeply inward. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. You can take small coastal ports when you peace out their allies to gain an early foothold. (Commonwealth). Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at EU4: theDar al-Islam. If Byzantium was at war with the Ottomans, you now become the war leader and can call in all of your strong allies (e.g. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. Aside from sealing off the Black Sea and connecting your territories, theres mostly no need for you to conquer anything north of the Caucasus mountains. Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. Give the UlemaUlema Land Rights, the Merchant GuildsMerchand Guild Land Rights, and the DhimmiDhimmi Land Rights. is a province you will need to retake the Caliphate. Once call for peace is sounded, you should peace out after a few months as it quickly becomes too expensive in dip to maintain. I smell a beefy QQ to their southeast, them declaring war would really shaft the Ottomans. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. This part is for those players who are trying to complete the Unify Islam mission, in which you unite all corners of the vast Islamic world under a single Caliphate once more. Most states are weak, meaning you can diplomatically conquer most of them.. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission toConquer Al-Ahsa. Use your fleet to prevent the Spanish from landing more units in Morocco while you siege it down. Next, occupy Constantinople and vassalize Byzantium. Now observe the situation. It's kind of irrelevant though, because even though I have almost two times the total development of the Ottomans, they still have a much larger army and stronger allies. The entire army of Tunis or 10k expensive boys? Find the first and second installments of this guide here: Since this Ottomans EU4 guide is so RNG-heavy, youll likely be running into situations that dont play out as planned. If you also have to fight your next target only take cash for shorter truce. Stay at war until they lose Egypt, Syria, and Greece. I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . If you get really lucky, others will follow your lead and you can get a huge dogpile going. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Time to make some new friends, I guess. Really, it's all about planning your idea groups to maximize the quality of your army. I still had Ajam as a vassal, which gets cores on much of Iran. Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Revanchism. 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